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Who Shot Sam? · Post by **Who Shot Sam?** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:40 pm

I don't think he's a big fan of the new stats we added last season, so I doubt there will be an objection. If there is, we can reach a compromise before the draft begins.

mood swung · Post by **mood swung** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:11 pm

oily slick wrote

the mostest

from Nacodogches anyway.

but then i'm a control freak

truer words were never spoken.

and would you quit with this boring ball shit and go get those Todd Snider tickets already?

oily slick · Post by **oily slick** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:49 pm

that was cold, but fair.

todd who? any relation to dee?

so lacklustre · Post by **so lacklustre** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:05 am

let the redneck have his way, we should all go out of our way to tailor the league so that he can win it this year. I do agree that people who join should be committed for the season (to an asylum?). I hated the errors thing too (i thunk me 'noily fought for last place in this cat). Remind me what a DL slot is? I can't remember. Not in favour of another ptching slot but think that the total number of pitching innings allowed should be reduced.

Who Shot Sam? · Post by **Who Shot Sam?** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:09 am

DL=disabled list.

Post by **BlueChair** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:52 am

I'm in.

so lacklustre · Post by **so lacklustre** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 4:36 pm

ok an extra Dl slot is good.

Mechanical Grace · Post by **Mechanical Grace** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:03 am

Sorry if I screwed things up a bit last year-- I'm staying in the stands this season! I do wish it worked the way the footie one does; as it is it's just too many players you'd have to know/watch.

Good luck!

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:24 pm

I'm in.

I need time to think about the stats a little bit. I agree on eliminating losses. Not so sure about hits and walks in favor of OBP though. And recently I've been thinking about the ancient stat of total bases. I'm not bothered by an extra DL list. I'd like a defensive catagory, but agree that errors are pretty lame for this league. Those home runs allowed killed me last year (thank you Josh Beckett) - but I like the stat and think it should stay.

oily slick · Post by **oily slick** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:34 pm

hot dam, bwap showed up. goody has to be around the corner.

total bases could very well be good. the extra DL slot is way more real world. how can give equal value to home runs allowed though. i hate losses, but that is perhaps more defensible than home runs allowed. i'm flexible though, regardless of what moody says, and would be happy with whatever sam decides. i mostly ask that it not be too many. and don't sign up if you ain't gonna play.

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:50 pm

I like home runs allowed for the masochistic reasons. It absolutely kills me watching my guys give up dingers on the highlights.

Who Shot Sam? · Post by **Who Shot Sam?** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 1:53 pm

If we were to include total bases, it would be in place of what? I don't want to add any more categories at this point. If you wanted to get really nerdy and anal about it, you could argue that we should cut batting average in favor of OPS, a much truer measure of a hitter's worth.

so lacklustre · Post by **so lacklustre** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:53 pm

y'all scare me off with all these new terms what is OPS? It takes me half a season to get used to any new cat so please don't bring in too many.

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:53 pm

But I do want to be anal and nerdy. In my case, it's kind of what I'm known for.

I thought the amount of stats last year was managable. I wouldn't go overboard eliminating things. Home Runs Allowed was one of the few pitching stats we had that were defense independent (wins, losses, ERA, WHIP and saves all depend somewhat on the defense) - strikeouts is the remaining that we would have that is defense independent for pitching. A minor point maybe- but I'd argue it puts more emphasis on the pitcher himself rather than the team he plays for.

Again - no problem giving up losses and errors.

I'd just add total bases to the offensive stats.

A two for one Sam - one less category.

We still have plenty of time for debate?

Who Shot Sam? · Post by **Who Shot Sam?** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:54 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On-base_plus_slugging

For stat wankers only.

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:04 pm

Stat Wankers - good name for a band

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_in ... statistics

oily slick · Post by **oily slick** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:53 pm

the wankies manager just had a stroke.

Goody2Shoes · Post by **Goody2Shoes** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:10 pm

I'll play!

I'm somewhat ambivalent about all this insisting that people who sign up actually play. If I'm not mistaken, I believe that these ones are the only teams I finished ahead of the last 2 seasons. No, now that I think of it, I think that one non-player finished ahead of me at least once. That is so sad.

I kid. It's best if everyone plays.

As far as scoring categories, I don't have any very strong preferences, but would lean toward less anality (new word) and nerdiness. Don't we have enough of that in our lives as it is? (by way of reference, see the top 5 elvis songs statistics - yikes!)

oily slick · Post by **oily slick** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:31 pm

man it is going to be all-star teams city if we don't find more than 6 of us.

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:58 am

I'll get my brother involved - though he's not really an Elvis fan.

oily slick · Post by **oily slick** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:35 pm

what is a north hants knob?

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:36 am

North Hants Knobs

Hants is the standard abbreviation for Hampshire - I'm not sure how they get it, but Hants means Hampshire. I live in North Hampshire (nearly in Surrey!) - For example - if I needed some killer rims - I'd just give North Hants Tyres and Wheels a tinkle -

And a Knob - is the end of the baseball bat. But it might have different conotations in British slang:

knob Noun. 1. The penis.
2. An idiot, an objectionable person.
Verb. To have sex (with). E.g."I knobbed her when we were younger, years before she was famous."
Also spelt 'nob'.

I'm surprised North Hants Knobs wasn't taken already.

Who Shot Sam? · Post by **Who Shot Sam?** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:19 am

Any other players? Teams are a bit thin on the ground this year.

Boy With A Problem · Post by **Boy With A Problem** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:38 am

What about the dude that won it last year?

and Crash 8 Durham?

10 teams would be ideal.

oily slick · Post by **oily slick** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:41 pm

Boy With A Problem wrote:
I'm surprised North Hants Knobs wasn't taken already.

that is clear to me now. is there a South Hants?

7 or 8 who play is better than prodding in an extra 1 or 2 who really won't. we've seen this 2 years in a row. seems as though crash's interest faded with his fortunes last year.