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Secret, Profane and Sugarcane.
the title. it does not move me.
I'm not sure this is a fair criticism-- I think it's more likely that Costello felt that the song didn't require anything extra to be complete.How Deep Is The Red - This really should have been a classic EC song, but it seems half finished to me. Needs another verse and I never thought I'd see the day when EC would resort to simply repeating the title over and over again as a middle eight. I just sounds like he's running out of ideas and can't be arsed to come up with anything else.
I theorize that this is due to Elvis being much more exposed (at least in the US) than he was say 10 years ago, than due to the merits of the actual album. Sure its gotten good reviews and that has helped. But with his talk show, the guest appearances on other TV shows, the Diana Krall marriage, the Lexus commercials, the Jonas Bros and other band connections, his steady album releases and touring . . . he's turning into more of a mainstream/household name than I ever imagined.thepopeofpop wrote:I quite like it. More importantly, I'm not the only one, as this week's US Billboard Album chart reveals:
I believe it's actually the third. Armed Forces was #10 and Get Happy!! #11.thepopeofpop wrote:his second highest US album chart placing.
cwr wrote:I'm not sure this is a fair criticism-- I think it's more likely that Costello felt that the song didn't require anything extra to be complete.How Deep Is The Red - This really should have been a classic EC song, but it seems half finished to me. Needs another verse and I never thought I'd see the day when EC would resort to simply repeating the title over and over again as a middle eight. I just sounds like he's running out of ideas and can't be arsed to come up with anything else.
To imply that EC's drive or inspiration has somehow dried up because he didn't write an extra verse for a song, or because he uses repetition in a song, doesn't seem fair to me in that I don't think it can be backed up by anything other than that you'd like the song more if it was longer. I was just pointing out that you could say that about many other Costello songs from 1977 to the present day-- he sure says "I Want You" a lot in one of them!-- surely we can agree that this is more likely to be that he is using repetition for a desired effect rather than that he "can't be arsed to come up with anything else", right?Needs another verse and I never thought I'd see the day when EC would resort to simply repeating the title over and over again as a middle eight. I just sounds like he's running out of ideas and can't be arsed to come up with anything else.
I'd like Elvis to do an album that had as much impact in my life as his earlier ones, but it's unlikely at this stage, just as it is for most artists. Who can you name in music who have been around for 30 yrs plus and who is making music as vital as back in the glory days? Very few if any.pophead2k wrote:A final thought: perhaps our respective enjoyment of EC's work the last ten years (or during any time frame for that matter) has as much if not more to do with where we are in our own lives. Let's face it, very little musically can compare with music we enjoy when we are young. In my teens and twenties music was as essential to me as air or water, and the music I got into at that time will maintain a special feeling for me forever. It's not that I enjoy music less today or that music is not as good- it's just that it doesn't burn itself into me in the same way. I'd venture to say that nothing that EC puts out, no matter how good, will ever elicit the same response in most of us that his work did when we were younger. Just an idea.
Yes, I forgot about "Get Happy!!". SP&S is still his highest debut though, as both "Armed Forces" and "Get Happy!!" debuted outside of the Top 20. Of course, these are different times and albums rarely climb the charts anymore.And No Coffee Table wrote:I believe it's actually the third. Armed Forces was #10 and Get Happy!! #11.thepopeofpop wrote:his second highest US album chart placing.
"Momofuku" only made #57. "The River in Reverse" only made #102. "The Delivery Man" got to #40.Emotional Toothpaste wrote:I theorize that this is due to Elvis being much more exposed (at least in the US) than he was say 10 years ago, than due to the merits of the actual album.thepopeofpop wrote:I quite like it. More importantly, I'm not the only one, as this week's US Billboard Album chart reveals:
I think the repetition is the second best part of the song (after the opening lines)! Although it isn't totally repetitive - the music changes as he repeats the line.Jackson Monk wrote: My opinion is that 'How Deep is the Red' is a very good song that could have been great. I personally find the repetition irritating and unnecessary - as I did 'Alibi' after a week or two.